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Moby Clarke
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Post subject: Above and beyond... Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:46 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:09 pm Posts: 965 Location: North Minneapolis
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http://www.startribune.com/local/stpaul/60466167.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiacyKU7DYaGEP7vDEh7P:DiUsFrom the story: Quote: St. Paul Police Sgt. Ann Bebeau was off duty, jogging through downtown, when a vehicle passed by her with a pair of occupants apparently fighting inside.
Near Wabasha Avenue and 12th Street, Chief John Harrington recalled Tuesday, a juvenile male suddenly sprang from the vehicle, chased by a man carrying an aluminum baseball bat. You have to give her credit for acting with out any weapon or back-up.
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Dee
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:01 am |
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:39 pm Posts: 533 Location: Mankato Area
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Quote: You have to give her credit for acting with out any weapon or back-up. Absolutely. After all the misconduct stories lately, it's nice to be reassured that there are LEOs who take their oaths seriously.
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jaysong
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:00 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:09 am Posts: 983 Location: Brewster
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Quote: You have to give her credit for acting I commend her for acting the way she did. I do not commend her for being without a weapon. IMO, that is a very foolish thing.
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:09 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm Posts: 2264 Location: Eden Prairie
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Off duty cops who don't carry puzzle me.
Speaking from my corrections days, people who get locked up by you often tend to take a very pissy view of you when they run across you in the world.
-Mark
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gman1868
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:38 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:26 pm Posts: 385
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Officers who despise weapons shocks me. A freind fits that description, I don't know if it would any good to encourage him to find another occupation.
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Fubar
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:44 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:12 pm Posts: 289
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I haven't found a method to carry while jogging that works for me. Perhaps Sgt. Bebeau has a similar issue.
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mnglocker
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:43 am |
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Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:04 pm Posts: 1682 Location: Wright County
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mrokern wrote: Off duty cops who don't carry puzzle me.
Speaking from my corrections days, people who get locked up by you often tend to take a very pissy view of you when they run across you in the world.
-Mark Ditto that. I keep telling my bro-inlaw he needs to be carrying off the clock and to borrow one of my numerous holsters or belts if he needs to. And Fubar, the solution for jogging is a fanny pack or a shoulder rig. I use the shoulder rig with my G23 when I go for a run.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:04 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:24 am Posts: 6767 Location: Twin Cities
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ree
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:34 am |
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:55 pm Posts: 742 Location: Twin Cities
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Andrew Rothman wrote: Fanny pack, holster shirt, bell band, shoulder holster, SmartCarry.
The equipment isn't lacking, just the will. Yup. For running anything that holds the gun snugly to the body can work. That it still might not be perfect, so what ? I'll add another option: consider ditching the sweat pants and run in lightweight cargo shorts with a belt and an IWB holster.
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Q_Continuum
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:50 pm |
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Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:43 am Posts: 371 Location: Anoka, MN
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ree wrote: Andrew Rothman wrote: Fanny pack, holster shirt, bell band, shoulder holster, SmartCarry.
The equipment isn't lacking, just the will. Yup. For running anything that holds the gun snugly to the body can work. That it still might not be perfect, so what ? I'll add another option: consider ditching the sweat pants and run in lightweight cargo shorts with a belt and an IWB holster. I'll second this. Exercise in the lighter side of your clothing, but then you'll discover what doesn't work as well - "Hey, putting spare mags loose in the cargo pocket bangs around alot. Hey, if I put it inside a Uncle Mike's Pocket holster, it doesn't smash my leg..."
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Drizzle
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:20 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:05 am Posts: 60 Location: St Paul, MN
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Uncle Mikes in a pocket does let a .38 bang against the leg when you run; it needs to be close against your waist not to bounce. Trust me. This is when a deep cover like a Beretta .25 would be useful,. but they may not be approved for SPPD. Still, a .38 Ti in a fanny pack doesn't weight much.
I'm all for recommending cops carry off duty, but I have a hard time criticizing one who acted so heroically. Lesson learned for the future, I guess.
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kimberman
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:50 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:48 pm Posts: 2782 Location: St. Paul
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For cycling. The "quick draw" bag. Fits on the top bar right between your hands. Holds a S&W 342. http://www.rei.com/product/780462
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:28 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm Posts: 2264 Location: Eden Prairie
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Shhh, don't tell REI they have something that could actually be used for anything firearm related. The granolas might get scared and stop carrying it! -Mark
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TopGear
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:16 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:35 pm Posts: 82
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Quote: Keep your nutrition and other necessities close at hand... Just tell them it's for a lead deficiency. I suppose another option is to mount the gun to the handlebar and use the bag as a turret cover. In all seriousness, that bag probably is more accessible than a shoulder holster under a partially unzipped cycling jacket. It sounds like a good hot weather/nice weather option. I'm hesitant about not having the gun on me, especially if I were knocked off the bike, for instance. Of course things would already be pretty bad at that point. Maybe one in the bag and one in a holster would be a good solution.
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Q_Continuum
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Post subject: Re: Above and beyond... Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:34 am |
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Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:43 am Posts: 371 Location: Anoka, MN
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TopGear wrote: Quote: Keep your nutrition and other necessities close at hand... Just tell them it's for a lead deficiency. I suppose another option is to mount the gun to the handlebar and use the bag as a turret cover. In all seriousness, that bag probably is more accessible than a shoulder holster under a partially unzipped cycling jacket. It sounds like a good hot weather/nice weather option. I'm hesitant about not having the gun on me, especially if I were knocked off the bike, for instance. Of course things would already be pretty bad at that point. Maybe one in the bag and one in a holster would be a good solution. Bag, holster, AND shoulder rig?
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