Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . .
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:52 pm |
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Noble: subpoena power wasn't used, because "you can run into a lot of trouble", so they kept it an audit.
Don't want to complicate things, you know.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:52 pm |
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Referred evidence of individual wrongdoing to the FBI.
Sounds like he wanted a process audit and to let the criminal investigation happen seperately so the process audit would not bog down.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:54 pm |
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Nobles: "what you have here is a stand alone police organization. [...] "It was untethered to any other police organization. [...] it was loosely tethered to the board."
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:55 pm |
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whatever problems the cmdr had with officers could not be resolved. they had to be referred to the officers' home Internal Affairs Agency
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:56 pm |
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Paymar questions arrests correlation to prosecution whether it was effective.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:58 pm |
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Question from Sen. Higgens regarding whether the legislative auditor has subpoena power. Nobles said, "I decided that we were going to keep this within the bounds of an audit, which looks at control and compliance," and went on to say that he referred any additional investigation to the FBI.
Nobles said, "you have here ... a stand-alone police organization. ... It seemed untethered to any organizational structure, and only loosely tethered to the advisory board." Nobles noted that any disciplinary problems were referred back to the officer's home agency.
Paymar said, "did you examine the correlation of arrests or the number of arrests vis a vis prosecutions to determine that the actual police work was effective?" Nobles replied that this question was beyond the scope of the audit.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:59 pm |
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Nobles admits that Sen Leo Foley (DFL) had been asking for an effectiveness evaluation for years, but that his office never felt it important enough to do one.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:01 pm |
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Rep. Joe Mullery (DFL) asking if the GSF was somehow confused about what property could be forfeited, or if they were just "sloppy" in their recordkeeping.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:02 pm |
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Nobles: "Why do you take so many Flat Screen TV's?"
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:03 pm |
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Nobles: some property had no evidentiary value, nor could it be forfeited, so why did the officers take it?
Why did they take so many flat-screen TVs?
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:05 pm |
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Nice shirt, Joel ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:08 pm |
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the GSF did not report ANY forfeitures / seizures. Should that have been a red flag to the legislature or the auditors?
3:08 Andy Luger testifying.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:08 pm |
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Nobles is done. Next witness - Andy Luger to discuss his report.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:11 pm |
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Luger: "Law enforcement must at all times follow the law"
What a concept.
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Post subject: Re: Liveblogging the Gang Strike Force Scandal Hearing . . . Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:13 pm |
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Luger: "Egregious misconduct took place at the GSF" all allegations verified by 2 or more sources.
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