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 Libertarians Are Terrorists 
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:30 pm 
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Libertarians Are Terrorists, Says the State of Alabama
http://www.chrisbrunner.com/2007/05/09/libertarians-are-terrorists-says-the-state-of-alabama/

The Alabama Department of Homeland Security (ALDHS), established in June of 2003, has recently constructed a website that defines Domestic Terrorists as those who oppose gun control and a strong federal government.

Under the heading “Anti-Government Groups”, the site displays a flag that is widely considered one of the first symbols of American patriotism and reads, “In general, these terrorists claim that the U.S. government is infringing on their individual rights, and/or that the government's policies are criminal and immoral. Such groups may hold that the current government is violating the basic principles laid out by the U.S. Constitution…”

While Anarchism is defined by a lack state control and Communism is a maximization state control, two polar opposite concepts, the page that follows reads, “Anarchists groups are the 21st Century’s version of left wing or communist groups of the last. Anarchists believe that any government or organization that has power over others…will eventually become corrupt and abusive.”

If I’m not mistaken, the idea that government, if not kept in check, will become corrupt and abusive was first made popular in this country by our founding fathers, not a bunch of terrorist anarchist groups. This was the very reason for the implementation of the United States Constitution! In fact even Section 35 of the Alabama Constitution warns of this danger is it declares, “the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes other functions it is usurpation and oppression.”

The Alabama.gov site continues, “Most of these groups operate around larger urban areas and colleges/universities… Some are focused on issues such as World Trade, International Debt, and military involvement in foreign cultures… The theme is always the same. Big [government] is bad. Rich are using the poor to stay rich. Our government in particular is using its power immorally.”

In short, if you oppose gun control, taxes, military intervention, most of our national debt being held by foreign nations, or just a large federal government, you might be a terrorist!

The very idea that those who value their personal rights and liberties are being labeled terrorists by the State of Alabama is not only absurd and egregiously offensive, it completely contradicts the ideals our federal and state governments were founded on! The people of Alabama should be outraged!

These Alabama.gov pages can be reached by visiting the Alabama Homeland Security TAP Course, clicking on "Domestic Terrorists", and then on "Anti-Government Groups".

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The original content at the alabama.gov server has since been removed. However, there is archive.org:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060110071648/...ti-gov_grps.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20060110092949/...p/anarchist.htm


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Government bureaucrats are skeptical of libertarians because they see them as obstructionist. Libertarians are opposed to lots of things the bureaucrats are hired to do, and a lot of the laws and rules bureaucrats love to make and implement, so there is a fairly concerted effort to limit the influence of libertarians.

The League of Cities sort of unofficially warns officials against libertarians being appointed to planning and zoning boards for example. I have seen planning board members refuse to approve site plans for Section 8 Housing simply on the basis that the government should not subsidize housing. (The board members simply were confused between the discretionary and ministerial duties of the board. ) Staff blamed libertarians generally.

And people who oppose certain government projects bureaucrats propose on the ground that the project is not government's job, or who want to reduce government by hiring FEWER BUREAUCRATS tend to make enemies among those bureaucrats. Tell a city official you are a libertarian and his ears jump a little.

I'm not surprised that some idiot writing a web page wanted to lump libertarians with terrorists. That's probably what his colleagues say. It's all the same with certain bureaucrats who do take it personal.

If a public administrator calls you a libertarian, it's sort of a code word for possible troublemaker.


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Interesting to note that the archived pages are not found either.

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Tick Slayer wrote:
Interesting to note that the archived pages are not found either.

That's just because the links got screwed up somehow, these work:
Anti-Government Groups?
Anarchist Groups


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:47 am 
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Anti-government groups usually believe:

*Gun Control = Enslavement
*Constitution has been subverted
*The U.S. has lost its sovereignty


Oh oh. :)

Then they started talking about what dfferent classes of groups do, and it looks like we are still on the good guy side.


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