Six more children learn to "hate" the police.
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kimberman
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Post subject: Six more children learn to "hate" the police. Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:01 am |
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http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/415938.html
Quote: Buffalo Police batter their way into wrong house Family of 8 traumatized; officials admit error made but defend actions By T.J. Pignataro Buffalo (NY) NEWS STAFF REPORTER Updated: 08/16/08 8:50 AM
Armed with a battering ram and shotguns, Buffalo police looking for heroin broke down the door and stormed the lower apartment of a West Side family of eight.
The problem is that the Wednesday evening raid should have occurred at an apartment upstairs.
And, that’s only the tip of the iceberg, according to Schavon Pennyamon, who lives at the mistakenly raided apartment on Sherwood Street with her husband, Terrell, and six children.
Pennyamon alleges that after wrongly breaking into her apartment, police proceeded to strike her epileptic husband in the head with the butt end of a shotgun and point shotguns at her young children before admitting their mistake and then raiding the right apartment.
She says she’s left with a broken door, an injured husband, jittery children and — what bothers her most — still no apology from police.
“They know they did something wrong and they were still ignorant,” said the 29-year-old Pennyamon. “At first, I just wanted an apology. Now, because they want[ed] to be ignorant and rude, I have to take it to the next level.” * * *
Police brass acknowledge that officers with the Mobile Response and Narcotics units entered the wrong apartment.
“As the officers were in the lower apartment, one of the detectives reviewed the search warrant application and realized it was for the upper [apartment],” said Dennis J. Richards, chief of detectives.
“It appears to be an honest mistake and we certainly apologize to all involved,” added Michael J. DeGeorge, Buffalo police spokesman.
Police declined to comment, however, on Pennyamon’s allegations of assault and other police impropriety. * * *
Pennyamon remains unconvinced it was a mistake. She says officers told her they had “raided the house before” and she believes they felt entitled to do it again — warrant or not.
“The way they make it seem is ‘we can do whatever we want,’ ” she said.
Pennyamon’s troubled by what she says is an arrogance by police officers and an unwillingness to “serve and protect” those who need it.
“It’s a sad situation. I’ve always looked up to the police. I’ve always expected them to be on my side.”
Pennyamon was called home from her job as a certified nursing assistant at a local health care facility at about 6:30 p. m. Wednesday to find police at her house, her children partially dressed on the porch and her husband — a U.S. Air Force veteran — injured. She said police were rude and unapologetic.
It was a harsh welcome to the neighborhood for the family. They’ve only lived at the apartment on Sherwood Street, on the far West Side just south of West Ferry Street, for two weeks after she says they moved from the East Side to escape crime. Now, Pennyamon said, the family already is looking to relocate again.
“I don’t know what was going on upstairs, but it gives police no right to bust in my doors,” she said. “That’s just ridiculous.”
Richards said police protocol dictates that search warrants are executed by police first announcing their presence and then quickly and forcefully entering a property with guns drawn for their own protection. * * *
Pennyamon said the event left her husband with physical injuries and left a lasting impression on the children.
She said her husband, Terrell, suffered a dislocated arm after he was yanked up by police during the raid and is expected to return to his doctor Monday to possibly have glass — left behind by the door window police broke to get into the apartment — surgically removed from his foot.
Pennyamon’s 5-year-old daughter now sleeps with her.
“My 12-year-old and 6-year-old don’t want to be home at all,” she said, adding that her younger children cower or run to the back of the house when they hear anyone approaching.
“ ‘That’s the police,’ they say,” Pennyamon said.
Police said no arrests were made in the subsequent raid at the upstairs apartment.
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bensdad
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:07 pm |
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Those six kids are lucky. They got to learn early (and without injury) that cops are not the good guys. I've had to explain it several times to my 9 year-old girl. My six year-old son is coming around.
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Hunter07
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:32 pm |
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These types of 'incidents' are happening more and more every day. What I don't understand is, with the potential for violence, injuries, accidental deaths and liability issues, why in the hell don't the cops do a little bit of research before they bust a door down!?!?!?!?
Morons!
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Tick Slayer
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:02 pm |
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bensdad, never the good guys, or not automatically good?
Hunter07, because the culture in their departments encourages it and they perceive a very low chance of experiencing negative consequences personally.
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Hunter07
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:46 pm |
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Tick Slayer wrote: Hunter07, because the culture in their departments encourages it and they perceive a very low chance of experiencing negative consequences personally.
But yet the city, in which such screw-ups occur, end up paying out big bucks in property damage repairs and civil lawsuits.
They just don't get it, do they?
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kimberman
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:54 pm |
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Tick Slayer wrote: bensdad, never the good guys, or not automatically good?
Unfortunately, today they are automatically suspect.
Approach only when necessary and then with caution.
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Binky .357
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:04 pm |
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kimberman wrote: Unfortunately, today they are automatically suspect. Approach only when necessary and then with caution.
Trust no one, especially ones with that kind of carte blanche authority.
Never trust, talk to, or agree to "make things easier" for them.
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bensdad
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:45 pm |
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kimberman wrote: Tick Slayer wrote: bensdad, never the good guys, or not automatically good? Unfortunately, today they are automatically suspect. Approach only when necessary and then with caution.
Perfectly stated. thank-you, kimberman.
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Macx
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:56 pm |
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Quote: But yet the city, in which such screw-ups occur, end up paying out big bucks in property damage repairs and civil lawsuits.
They just don't get it, do they?
But they aren't spending THEIR money to make these repairs. . . if they make repairs at all. Presently I am being aquainted with a new form of justice, when the city attorney doesn't want to do what he is legally required to, he will just screw around with the citizen's lawyer until the citizen runs out of money and has to give up. It doesn't cost him personally, so who cares? Same dealio with these cops, break down a door for no reason & the condo association will charge $462 to put a new one up . . . try getting that money back from the city.
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lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become
a law unto himself; it invites anarchy .” Olmstead v. U.S., 277 U.S. 438
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Duane J
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:07 am |
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it's starting to appear as though accountability is not an option. if terminations were handed out for massive screw ups like this, the country would be left with a very small law enforcement community.
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Macx
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:28 am |
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You say that it is a bad thing. A dirty cop is twice as bad as no cop at all. And cops obtaining or executing warrants under false pretense arer dirty cops.
_________________ Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a
lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become
a law unto himself; it invites anarchy .” Olmstead v. U.S., 277 U.S. 438
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:26 pm |
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Hunter07 wrote: Tick Slayer wrote: Hunter07, because the culture in their departments encourages it and they perceive a very low chance of experiencing negative consequences personally. But yet the city, in which such screw-ups occur, end up paying out big bucks in property damage repairs and civil lawsuits. They just don't get it, do they?
These "payout awards" are actually rare, and the "payouts" are years later when nobody remembers what happened. The "payouts" do no affect cops in the least, it's just another thing for them to bitch about. They can blame the "lawyers and judges" instead of themselves.
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Scott Hughes
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:53 pm |
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Hunter07 wrote: These types of 'incidents' are happening more and more every day. What I don't understand is, with the potential for violence, injuries, accidental deaths and liability issues, why in the hell don't the cops do a little bit of research before they bust a door down!?!?!?!? Morons!
I believe that in part the up-tick in this kind of stuff is due to the "War On Drugs". The whole concept needs a re-think. The overuse of SWAT and other tactical units is getting way, way out of control.
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Traveler
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:22 pm |
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1. Legalize all drugs and ethyl alcohol beverages across the board.
2. Subsidize the manufacture of those drugs so that the cost to the end user is very low and affordable to anyone.
3. Allow the purchase of unlimited quantities.
4. Make sure the drugs are of high potency and to pharmaceutical quality.
5. Make the drugs available at any retail store.
Give it a generation and the problem will take care of itself. The bad crap that might happen would have happened anyhow, war on drugs or not, but just in a more rapid fashion.
The country will have more disposable income as a whole and those that would like to destroy the Western world (terrorists) will lose their main source of funds.
Dependency has no positive attributes. Let the Darwin theory do it's work.
Oh, and with all due respect to all.
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kecker
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:58 pm |
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So when are the medals awarded?
Or not a high enough body count?
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