ditto on the 231. Also, my 2 cents on the 168 matchkings, the very best load I have found so far in my .308 has been using IMR 4064. One ragged hole all day, everyday. I am going to try the Varget this summer as it is one of the powders that shoots the same at 80 as it does at -0. That is something I have found with the 4064, a summer zero does not hold water
Have fun relaoding, its great!!