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Author:  kimberman [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:12 am ]
Post subject:  SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

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Southern California Churches Encourage CCW: The genius of concealed carry of handguns is that would-be murders remain uncertain as to who is armed and who isn't. This is true for everyone interested in being as safe as they can be from future violence, because it comes to the realization of specific unalterable realities: you're on your own. This week some Southern California Church Leaders came to that very same conclusion, and took up a position advocating not only a very discreet security presence of professionals, but also took the advice of their consultants and adopted the policy of advocating concealed carry of handguns among the congregation. Realities are the core of solving the problem of church violence, and having the stomach to face those realities and to meet them. For too long, employers, churches, schools and others have said many different ways that they are sad to see things have to come to this, but this is a trap which serves not the people, but the killers. Fifteen Southern California church leaders refused to fall into that trap, and they sought out expert advice. It involves concealed carry of handguns in church, and they took it. Yes, concealed carry of handguns by the members who come to worship… (The problem is that, with the arguable exception of San Bernardino County, it is extremely difficult to get a CWP in southern California.)


http://www.examiner.com/x-2323-LA-Gun-R ... aled-carry

Have any new postings appeared at Minnesota churches since the ECLC's "victory"?
I've seen no signs and heard of no other communications (letters, church bulletins, etc).

Author:  Scott Hughes [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

Make sense to me, shepherds guarding the flock. :)

Author:  340PD [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

I must admit this is something I never thought I'd see. The idea of churches actually advocating the carry of firearms in church...wow. It makes complete sense I just never thought I'd see it.

Author:  jaysong [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

No offense but, I think you folks might just go to the wrong church. :wink:

Author:  kecker [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

340PD wrote:
I must admit this is something I never thought I'd see. The idea of churches actually advocating the carry of firearms in church...wow. It makes complete sense I just never thought I'd see it.


Recently was invited to an event at a friend's church. Plugged the address into my Garmin and pulled up to what surely looked like an Elementary School. Since, per usual, I was carrying I called my friends cellphone who was inside and verified that the location. Turns out this church had bought an old school building and converted it to activity rooms.

Point is that by calling into the building, basically all the other church members there knew I was carrying. Nobody was surprised or even really cared. Pastor himself made a point to indicate that firearms are welcome in his congregation.

Author:  Q_Continuum [ Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

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(The problem is that, with the arguable exception of San Bernardino County, it is extremely difficult to get a CWP in southern California.)


What about private property? Are they allowed to carry there?

(Walk gun in locked up in bag, visit "bathroom" or other sideroom to "load up")

Author:  Dee [ Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

340PD wrote:
I must admit this is something I never thought I'd see. The idea of churches actually advocating the carry of firearms in church...wow. It makes complete sense I just never thought I'd see it.


Especially in California.

Author:  RevDoug [ Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

jaysong wrote:
No offense but, I think you folks might just go to the wrong church. :wink:


Hmm ... you know, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. :)

Author:  ironbear [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SoCal churches smarter than those in Minnesota

340PD wrote:
I must admit this is something I never thought I'd see. The idea of churches actually advocating the carry of firearms in church...wow. It makes complete sense I just never thought I'd see it.

You've probably been around the wrong churches. My impression is that many of the "Liberal Theology" churches are anti-gun; while many Evangelical, Independent, Fundamentalist and "Reformed Theology" churches, are neutral to very supportive or gun rights.

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