Shooter in DC. Holocaust museum.
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kecker
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:23 am |
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mrokern wrote: BigBlue wrote: tman065 wrote: definitelty bringing my pistol with on vacation to DC next weekend... You do know that almost every building in DC has a metal detector at the entrance, right? BB He's an active LEO. Granted, that won't help him at a lot of places, but it does let him carry in general. -Mark
And last time I was at the Holocaust Museum, they let my LEO friend carry her firearm in with her. Metal detector pinged on it and she showed her badge. So yeah, it's worth bringing. I'm just not sure where all the "I have a badge" pass will work.
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kimberman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:23 am |
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Thank God. It wasn't an AK or AR-type (you all know, .. the ERB).
Quote: Investigators are trying to determine how von Brunn acquired the .22-caliber rifle used in the attack, said two other law enforcement officials, also speaking on condition of anonymity.
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EJSG19
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:27 am |
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We were just there this March. Metal detectors are everywhere, and in 90% of the museums I can remember. You will then be pulled aside, and any bags and pockets you have will be emptied and gone through if the detector goes off.
Its about as particular as airport security, and they fear stupid little things like fingernail clippers and small pocket knives just as much as somebody walking in with an Uzi.
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Binky .357
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:52 am |
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kimberman wrote: Thank God. It wasn't an AK or AR-type (you all know, .. the ERB). Quote: Investigators are trying to determine how von Brunn acquired the .22-caliber rifle used in the attack, said two other law enforcement officials, also speaking on condition of anonymity.
Don't fool yourself.
The lefts anti-gun agenda is all encompassing; they don't want just your "assault" weapons, they want EVERYTHING. Hunting shotguns and rifles, target pistols... a few years from now we'll hear about blackpowder revolvers being the new evil scourge.
There are already murmurs (in a another thread here, in fact) of a folding pocket knife ban. Then we'll move on to basball bats, kitchen knives and sharpened pencils.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:48 pm |
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kimberman wrote: Thank God. It wasn't an AK or AR-type (you all know, .. the ERB). Quote: Investigators are trying to determine how von Brunn acquired the .22-caliber rifle used in the attack, said two other law enforcement officials, also speaking on condition of anonymity.
Must have been a really good headshot to end the guard's life with that round.
Watch it turn out to be a single shot, bolt action boy scout's plinker purchased 80 years ago.
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tman065
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:24 pm |
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kecker wrote: mrokern wrote: BigBlue wrote: tman065 wrote: definitelty bringing my pistol with on vacation to DC next weekend... You do know that almost every building in DC has a metal detector at the entrance, right? BB He's an active LEO. Granted, that won't help him at a lot of places, but it does let him carry in general. -Mark And last time I was at the Holocaust Museum, they let my LEO friend carry her firearm in with her. Metal detector pinged on it and she showed her badge. So yeah, it's worth bringing. I'm just not sure where all the "I have a badge" pass will work.
It will be a crapshoot. My cousin was a tour guide at the Holocaust Museum and now works at the Capitol Visitors Center. I will rely on her for some good advice.
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kecker
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:28 pm |
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tman065 wrote: It will be a crapshoot. My cousin was a tour guide at the Holocaust Museum and now works at the Capitol Visitors Center. I will rely on her for some good advice.
Probably a pretty good person to see for advise. As I'm not sure I'd trust advise that's more than a couple weeks old. You're going to the land of 10,000 bureaucrats after all.
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Moby Clarke
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:19 pm |
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kecker wrote: tman065 wrote: It will be a crapshoot. My cousin was a tour guide at the Holocaust Museum and now works at the Capitol Visitors Center. I will rely on her for some good advice. Probably a pretty good person to see for advise. As I'm not sure I'd trust advise that's more than a couple weeks old. You're going to the land of 10,000 bureaucrats after all.
Kecker, I think you understated the number just a bit. I think if we took all the bureaucrates and filled up our 10,000+ lakes, it would only be a good start.
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kecker
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:34 am |
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Moby Clarke wrote: Kecker, I think you understated the number just a bit. I think if we took all the bureaucrates and filled up our 10,000+ lakes, it would only be a good start.
Hmmm, you might be right. But the only way to find out is to try.
You start with the Department of Agriculture, I'll start with Health and Human Services.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:44 pm |
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People like James von Brunn just reinforce my resolve.
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AGoodDay
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:29 pm |
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Wow. I was just there less than a month ago.
Yup, metal detectors to get in there. Also metal detectors to get into the cafe right next to it. Just something I found odd, when we went into the museum we were informed that my friend can't have her apple juice in there for "security reasons." My other friend's water was okay. Alrighty then.
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Hunter07
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:32 pm |
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kecker wrote: Moby Clarke wrote: Kecker, I think you understated the number just a bit. I think if we took all the bureaucrates and filled up our 10,000+ lakes, it would only be a good start. Hmmm, you might be right. But the only way to find out is to try. You start with the Department of Agriculture, I'll start with Health and Human Services.
The EPA would shut ya down because of massive pollution.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:45 pm |
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AGoodDay wrote: Yup, metal detectors to get in there. Also metal detectors to get into the cafe right next to it.
But somehow an 88 year old man managed to get a rifle in and they held the friggin' door open for him?
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kecker
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:31 pm |
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DeanC wrote: AGoodDay wrote: Yup, metal detectors to get in there. Also metal detectors to get into the cafe right next to it. But somehow an 88 year old man managed to get a rifle in and they held the friggin' door open for him?
The metal detectors are about 20 feet inside the doors. From the sounds of it he came in shooting. Although if I remember right the entire front is clear glass so they should have been able to see him coming...although they were probably busy dealing with visitors.
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