If denied in MN. Can you use Utah to carry in MN?
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princewally
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:04 pm |
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ssax wrote: Not that it isn't worth it. Just might take a while for some (like me) to scrounge up a couple grand. But it's my own doing I guess.
Seriously, call Marc.
_________________ Of the people, By the People, For the People. The government exists to serve us, not the reverse.
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:07 pm |
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princewally wrote: ssax wrote: Not that it isn't worth it. Just might take a while for some (like me) to scrounge up a couple grand. But it's my own doing I guess.
Seriously, call Marc. Yup. You gotta phone; use it.
_________________ Just a guy.
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ssax
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:13 pm |
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I called Marc already this afternoon. Like I said, I just have to figure out how I can get the money.
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ssax
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:13 pm |
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I just wasn't sure what I should and shouldn't post on here.
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boomingmetropolis
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:11 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 14, 2006 12:03 pm Posts: 173 Location: I'll get back to you on that
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Before any class I always bring up the possibility that depending on their local sheriff's whim, they might have to engage an attorney in the event that said sheriff denied their permit. This is AFTER I run through all the obvious things that disqualify. No point in wasting their time and money if they can't pass the check.
Then, I hand them Brian Toder's card.
Had a student who lived in St Paul who was denied on the basis of a 12yr old DUI. After weighing the costs, he decided his Mom's house was his new residence. His Mom lives in Washington Cty.
_________________ To expect bad men not to do wrong is madness, for he who expects this desires an impossiblity. But to allow men to behave so to others and expect them not to do thee any wrong is irrational and tyranical. Marcus Aurelius
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ssax
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:24 am |
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anybody want a roommate?
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dan7780
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:56 pm |
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so what is the final verdict on this?
_________________ -Dan
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:14 pm |
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dan7780 wrote: so what is the final verdict on this? There isn't one, yet. May not be, for awhile.
_________________ Just a guy.
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ssax
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:14 pm |
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It will take me a while to get the money together.
Does anyone know how long these usually take?
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:28 am |
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Here's what we know about timing. This is general information, not specific advice for any one person. Also, it should be noted that I'm not a lawyer, just a guy who gets asked this stuff a lot, and who has regular contact with lawyers who do this stuff.
The court must hear the appeal within 60 days of filing. The hearing will likely run an hour or two, and decisions are usually returned within 30 days.
There is a hard deadline of 20 business days to submit an administrative appeal -- a letter from you or the lawyer. If a denied applicant is considering that as an intermediate step prior to a full-blown court appeal, that deadline should be carefully noted.
Getting an administrative appeal letter written by a lawyer will cost less than a court appeal, but if the sheriff reverses himself, the sheriff will not pay the attorney for the cost fo the letter. If you go to court and win, the sheriff will be ordered to pay your legal costs.
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:50 am |
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Yup, to all of that. As a real lawyer will tell you, the admin appeal process is optional -- they have to (pretend to) go through it, but you don't.
_________________ Just a guy.
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Solidgun
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:26 pm |
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Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:28 am Posts: 14 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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Just one additional information.
If you have been convicted of one of the "moral" turpitude listed by Utah rules, they will let you get their permit after 5 years of clean record depending on the nature of the crime. I got this information when I took my class, but I tucked the information away as I only needed MN and ND license at that time and it did not apply to me.
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